Confusion reigns supreme

Hello,

I purchased a copy of Mocha AE version #1 a few weeks ago and am only now getting a chance to attempt to use it, but I am finding the documentation and tutorials confusing.

Seems the instructors take quite a bit for granted that we will know the basics of how the interface works and so on.

Even the Quick Start/Reference makes a ton of assumptions that the user should know their way around the interface and I have stalled out after about 2 hours of trying to do a simple, planar track.

Maybe I am just dense, but where is the “stupid boy” tutorials or book I so apparently need?

Thanks
Frank

Well, the Monet interface is similar but not enough to make it exactly clear how to use everything.

Of course, you shouldn’t buy a software package and attempt to learn in under deadline pressure, but it seems that’s the only way I ever can acquire new tools!

Will there be a dedicated Mocha AE interface tutorial?

:frowning:

OH, now I found it. Under the MONET support section!

How silly of me! :wink:

Never mind…

—Quote (Originally by ross_shain)—
Did you watch this tutorial: http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/monet/Mocha_gui_workflow.mov

Based on current feedback, I am going to commit to creating a through mocha, mocha for AE user interface tutorial in the next few weeks! :wink:
—End Quote—
Ross,

Yes, and it helped quite a bit, but there were still enough unexplained actions (such as the required key strokes to position the grid to confirm tracking) to cause me to break it off due to time constraints and finish shots with the AE point tracker and manually repositioning track points.

I don’t know, maybe I am the lowest common denominator in the targeted audience, but at age 48, the old brain don’t fire like it used to.

Thanks for your response.

frank

Any word on that tutorial for beginners? :slight_smile:

I have pretty much figured out how to use the interface, but I am still missing some fundamental operating philosophy, as my splines tend to suddenly detach themselves and behave like point source trackers, wandering all over the place when something enters the zone.

All I am trying to do is a simple image stabilization on some locked-off shots that were mis-registered when optically printed during motion picture preservation, but I am failing.

Can I make multiple tracking planes in the same shot?

Maybe the Boris Continuum Optical Stabilizer would be better suited to this task?

Did you watch this tutorial: http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/monet/Mocha_gui_workflow.mov

Based on current feedback, I am going to commit to creating a through mocha, mocha for AE user interface tutorial in the next few weeks! :wink:

Frank,
A few other tutorials worth watching:

http://library.creativecow.net/articles/rabinowitz_aharon/Mocha_Tut_1.php

http://library.creativecow.net/articles/rabinowitz_aharon/Mocha_Tut_1.php

Best,
R

A few things:

  1. Ben from Curious Turtle training now has a mocha for AE training DVD for sale!

http://www.curiousturtle.com/en/component/content/article/47-products/140-rock-steady-successful-tracking.html

  1. Yes you can use multiple shapes on the same plane by using the add contour button. This is perhaps one of the most important things to learn about mocha and it is detailed in many of the tutorials. You can add multiple shapes to a layer by using add contour. If the shape overlaps, it is a subtraction. If it doesn’t it adds to the track area. In this unique way, you can use mocha to solve tracks that go off screen or get obscured by foreground elements.

Hope this helps.
-R