Render error in Particle Illusion in Optics 2022

First of all, I’m loving Optics 2022 and the incorporated particle illusions. Well done!

One question, though. I’m trying to render a PI effect to video so I can then composite over an image and am getting an error when trying to do this that says there is a “missing queue element”. I’ve launched PI from optics, selected render, and then start render from the pop-up. I’ve tried different codec’s and formats and get the same message. Any ideas?

This is a known issue. You would need to save the project from the PI interface (launched from Optics) and then reopen it from within the PI Standalone.

Thank you Marco, very useful. Does this mean I need to install PI standalone in that case?

Yes, you would need to also install the PI Standalone.

I’m getting this error in the standalone? How do I que something for export? Nothing shows in the export preview but the Boris FX logo.

You can’t currently render PI particle animations from inside of Optics.

To clarify I’m doing it from PI which is of course inside Optics. If that’s what you meant than why is there a Render dialog with video format settings if I can’t export a video?
I’ve tried this when launching Optics from Photoshop and same error Missing Queue Element.

That’s a bug that needs to be addressed.

If you want to render animations, use the free standalone version of PI: Particle Illusion

Hi all. I very much enjoyed Ross’s cinemagraph presentation on YouTube this week and he mentioned that BorisFX is planning to release Optics 2022.5 very soon. Will the update allow for animations to be rendered from the optics plugin version of PI yet? In other words has this bug that gives a “Missing Queue Element” on video export been addressed?


Yes, this issue is fixed in 2022.5 of Optics to be released soon.

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Awesome! Very much looking forward to it. Keep up the awesome work.

You can now download and install Optics 2022.5: Boris FX | Downloads

Glad you watched and liked the live presentation. If you have not seen this quick tip on rendering particle animations from Optics 2022.5: Create Cinemagraphs in Photoshop & Lightroom with Optics 2022.5 - YouTube

I have Optics 2022.5 (Black Friday-Nov 2022) and I’m still trying to follow the cinemagraph video tutorial using a coffee image for practice. I start out using Optics, and then–via Optics–go into Particle Illusion and try to render from it. Regardless of which settings I use to render/export, I continue getting the error message: “Internal data stream error”, and have yet to be successful in getting a cinemagraph made. Am I missing anything? I even tried a 1 month paid subscription to see if it could have possibly been that? Nope. The best I’ve done so far is use the PI standalone to make a render, then import it into Davinci Resolve, and from there render it out as an mp4. All that did was make a short mp4 video. Help!

This is working for me on both Windows and Mac. Can you send the image you are using as well as an Optics setup file (File > Save Setup) so I can take a look?

Hi Marco. Sorry for the latelate response, but portraits + holidays. Here are the following you requested: Optics setup file; image used; and a screenshot of the parameters set while trying to render out to create cinemagraph. Looking forward to any fix you could suggest. Thanks in advance. Addendum: It’s not allowing me to upload the Setup File here. How else can I send this to you?

Can you use dropbox or google drive to send me a download link for the setup file?

I can. Here’s the link. Let me know if you have issues. I don’t use Dropbox regularly.

@a.f.zamosa The ProRes codec has a bug where images resolutions not divisible by 16. You are trying to render an image that is 5980x3897 which falls into this category. I suggest resizing your image in the Optics standalone or Photoshop prior to applying Optics, Particle Illusion and rendering to either a standard video format or one that is divisible by 16.

I was finally able to render by resizing image divisible by 16. Nothing in the demonstrations nor the Boris website addresses this, which is why I couldn’t solve why my renders weren’t successful. Although, I still can’t render via .mp4, only .MOV format.
Hopefully, there will be a fix for this in the future? The next step is a smooth transitional looping as described in the second portion of the cinemagraph video. But, instead of Premier Pro, I’m using DaVinci Resolve (free ver). Are the steps the same with it as with Premier? If not, are there any video tutorials anywhere that I can follow? I have zero experience with video editing, unfortunately.